Heybeerman
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Is there really anything "under ground" at UTVunderground?
What are your UTV pet-peeves?
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megadesertdiesel
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i bet there are tons of secrets JD wont tell us about stuff he has seen or heard about from the manufacturers.
Lol. Classic
motive
Active Member
That the Mint 400 has a two hour tv showing put on by POLARIS and the utv's get maybe 3 minutes. Epic fail on the marketing department there. Should at least had it in the contract with NBC or Red bull or whoever to cover some of the race besides a few highlight shots we have already been watching here on UTVUG for months. For crying out loud, if they want to grow the offroad market in general it will be with UTVs not TT. No one is going to watch the race and decide to go out and buy/build a TT. And RZR commercials make it look like a toy, not a race capable machine when all the TV coverage is of the trucks.
Now the XP1K commercial was awsome. It did fail on the fact that it didn't tell everyone that hasn't been looking at the UTV market to go down to the dealership and check one out for themselves. I mean I am not even sure what it was trying to sell. If it was my first time seeing it I would have been left wanting to know more but no direction to look other than to Google it. I hope this comes off as constructive criticism. JoeyD and mad media nailed it on the cool scale but as far as the capitalistic side, I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish.
Now the XP1K commercial was awsome. It did fail on the fact that it didn't tell everyone that hasn't been looking at the UTV market to go down to the dealership and check one out for themselves. I mean I am not even sure what it was trying to sell. If it was my first time seeing it I would have been left wanting to know more but no direction to look other than to Google it. I hope this comes off as constructive criticism. JoeyD and mad media nailed it on the cool scale but as far as the capitalistic side, I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish.
JoeyD23
#utvunderground
Who's marketing department failed? Polaris just got more eyeballs in front of an endemic audience then they will from any other TV show or commercial they sponsor all year! This show just reached more eyeballs in one day on NBC and on the RedBull website then destination Polaris or our race videos will get all year maybe?
If you think we can sell RedBull on giving up one of their covered Signature Series time slots on a national network during prime time weekend time-slot for a 2hr UTV race you're crazy. RedBull wanted to showcase Trophy Trucks and 2 of their biggest athletes in the process. UTVs got to go along for the ride!
Trophy Trucks sell eyeballs, not UTVs unfortunately. No one wants to see more UTV coverage then me but this show was the mint 400 and the TTs are the elite division of off road racing. Polaris is a sponsor just like General Tire. We should all be pretty stoked we got the level of coverage we did get. How do you think the other class guys feel who got nothing? Polaris is smart in sponsoring this show, and not just this one, Polaris is sponsoring the entire RedBull signature series this year because of the eyeballs their quality event related shows attract. Not to mention the cool factor that surrounds RedBull.
As for our XP1K commercial, we aren't trying to sell machines directly. We want people to search it and watch it then decide whether they want to go to a dealership. It was a commercial for the project, not a Rzr perse. I haven't looked at our view count to see if it worked at all.
motive
Active Member
You maybe correct. Polaris might have had to pay through the nose for what they got. I am more frustrated with the whole show than just the utv thing. I love watching TT but with all the effort they put in to just fill time they missed a lot of good racing in the other classes. It was clear they wanted to show pastrana and the red bull truck as much as they could even though he wasn't leading otherwise they would have show more of the 3rd and 4th place guys too. I shouldn't be mad at red bull at all. At least they brought us something. It's like when people cry about the polaris sponsored videos that you put out!
At the end of the XP1K commercial you could have at least had something that said to youtube it. Just my 2 wooden nickles. Hope it accomplishes what you set out to do.
At the end of the XP1K commercial you could have at least had something that said to youtube it. Just my 2 wooden nickles. Hope it accomplishes what you set out to do.
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
I am pretty sure Polaris got what they wanted. they reached every off-road guy out there, but iam pretty sure nascar and ufc have way more viewers every week. "with all due respect" I didn't see a whole segment on the dodge dart just saying. and I seen nothing on best in the desert. does this show how cheap they are or they just riding the coat tails. All UTV guys should start now for all mileage for next year. If Polaris was smart have 50 1000xp out there to rent and put 1800 numbers on them and let all TT do lap in morning. Better yet I ment mad media/bitd so Polaris isn't liable. I bet UTV would be in the big show.
JoeyD23
#utvunderground
Reality is this.. General Tire is the title sponsor of the RACE, how much General Tire content did you see?
The reason Polaris got love is #1 they are a sponsor of the RACE but the main reason is they are a sponsor of the RedBull Signature Series.
I personally hope that the show can go back to the way it was the last 4 years and do away with RedBull. Problem with that is then we probably don't get the reach the show just got. Its a catch 22.
Gunnslinger
Member
if you wait for it to come to you, you'll never get it. A lot of people expect media to flock to them for some reason ..
Gunnslinger
Member
btw -- where is the horn on UTV's???... all i want is a horn.. thats it ...
sand shark
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sand shark
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I kept cracking up every time the announcer would reference Tavo as the "Mexican" driver. How about the very talented driver from Mexico or just a damn good driver. LOL.
That guy can drive.
That guy can drive.
crazywatson
#13 - UTVUnderground Approved
That's because his accent made it impossible for him to properly pronounce people's names. Lol
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Bajaxp
SXS Racer Extraordinaire - UTVUnderground Approved
JD's 'trash in the dez' has to be my #1.
JD's 'Banshee with Toomey pipes doing doughnuts around my toy hauler at 2 am has to be my #2).
Aftermarket 'pipe' manufacturers that claim '10% more power' with a simple slip on. Sorry, most aftermarket pipes make less power than stock. Muzzy is the one that we know that actually makes power.
Then there is those that want a 'race report' and then don't want to hear why we did so well or why we sucked. One is perceived as bragging and the other as excuses. It is just the truth! If you don't want a race report then don't ask.
Dealers wanting to sell more UTV but who don't want to 'support the sport.' I give Kudos to Bert's Mega Mall for supporting UTV racers and also to Ride Now. What about Chaparral, Moto World, Valley Cycle or every other dealer that wants to profit from UTV racing. Step up.
Hypocrite racers who want respect and acknowledgement, but don't return the favor when another team wins.
People who bag on the OEMs. They say they don't do enough to 'keeping trails open,' 'not sponsoring more racers,' etc. Actually they have no clue how much effort, money and time the OEM's spend on the aforementioned subject, yet they claim it is not enough. If you knew how many inquires that the OEM's get in a day your head would spin. The people that work at the UTV OEMs are very, very smart people and work to put their assets in the right places. Are they perfect....'pffffffft' fug no, but then again nor are you and nor am I. And no I don't work for an OEM.
JD's 'Banshee with Toomey pipes doing doughnuts around my toy hauler at 2 am has to be my #2).
Aftermarket 'pipe' manufacturers that claim '10% more power' with a simple slip on. Sorry, most aftermarket pipes make less power than stock. Muzzy is the one that we know that actually makes power.
Then there is those that want a 'race report' and then don't want to hear why we did so well or why we sucked. One is perceived as bragging and the other as excuses. It is just the truth! If you don't want a race report then don't ask.
Dealers wanting to sell more UTV but who don't want to 'support the sport.' I give Kudos to Bert's Mega Mall for supporting UTV racers and also to Ride Now. What about Chaparral, Moto World, Valley Cycle or every other dealer that wants to profit from UTV racing. Step up.
Hypocrite racers who want respect and acknowledgement, but don't return the favor when another team wins.
People who bag on the OEMs. They say they don't do enough to 'keeping trails open,' 'not sponsoring more racers,' etc. Actually they have no clue how much effort, money and time the OEM's spend on the aforementioned subject, yet they claim it is not enough. If you knew how many inquires that the OEM's get in a day your head would spin. The people that work at the UTV OEMs are very, very smart people and work to put their assets in the right places. Are they perfect....'pffffffft' fug no, but then again nor are you and nor am I. And no I don't work for an OEM.
Yeah same here we watched 1/2 of it in the morning and went for a Cinder Mountain cruise at Sunset Crater came back to the cabin and watched the recording of it and Kept laughing everytime he said the Mexican. LMAO. Good spot for a scene from Blazing Saddles now if I don't say so myself.
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
being the guinea pig on race parts. more testing or if I am your guinea pig they better be free.
badassmav
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If you go to a "Church of the Nazarene" brunch, odds are, you can expect to hear a lot of religious jabbering. If you attend the "Budweiser Cup" (mmm, beer!) Hydroplane races, chances are you're not going to find Coors on tap. Yay! When "Polaris Presents" an event, well, we already know that the other brands of UTV's will, for the most part, be overlooked.
Why can't we all learn that the organization which provides funding for any given event, is most likely the brand you will be watching when the event publicly airs. I was bummed that besides TT's and class 1's, only a few UTE's were shown, and of course the UTV coverage reflected only the source of the funding. (Although General didn't spend "extra effort" to edit out the BFG content. Hmmm?) Bummed, yes. Surprised, no!
I prepared myself for the content of the broadcast, and therefore, enjoyed it immensely. Best coverage of a desert race one can expect nowadays. I still think it pales in comparison to the days when off road racing was covered equally, and with out bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iGKi3bfb7E
That my friends, is how to really share a sporting event with the public. From the well funded teams, all of the way down to the grass roots of the sport, NO-ONE was too insignificant to be worthy of valuable air time.
I expect that a true fan of the sport, such as myself, would rather have seen an equal amount of time given to the lower "classes" as was allowed for the big guys. It is what it is guys. Times are changing rapidly, so enjoy what diversity you are alotted before it is gone. What do you think the choices in life that are available to you will be like when power house companies are through conglomerating the market? When giants like NBC form subsidiaries with the likes of Genereal Electric, Comcast, Telemundo, Universal Resorts, well you get the idea.
The bottom line is, as time goes by, we all must get used to things being crammed down our throats the way that the "guys with the ties" want it to be. At least we still have enough liberties allotted to us so we can speak our minds without being incriminated for doing so. That is, until the oil companies that we allow to control our lifestyles gobble up piss ant companies, comparatively speaking, like NBC Universal and gain even more control over our choices and freedoms. Wow! That badassmav is one paranoid twisted dude! Maybe, but I sure miss yesterday...
Man, another rant! I really am old.
Why can't we all learn that the organization which provides funding for any given event, is most likely the brand you will be watching when the event publicly airs. I was bummed that besides TT's and class 1's, only a few UTE's were shown, and of course the UTV coverage reflected only the source of the funding. (Although General didn't spend "extra effort" to edit out the BFG content. Hmmm?) Bummed, yes. Surprised, no!
I prepared myself for the content of the broadcast, and therefore, enjoyed it immensely. Best coverage of a desert race one can expect nowadays. I still think it pales in comparison to the days when off road racing was covered equally, and with out bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iGKi3bfb7E
That my friends, is how to really share a sporting event with the public. From the well funded teams, all of the way down to the grass roots of the sport, NO-ONE was too insignificant to be worthy of valuable air time.
I expect that a true fan of the sport, such as myself, would rather have seen an equal amount of time given to the lower "classes" as was allowed for the big guys. It is what it is guys. Times are changing rapidly, so enjoy what diversity you are alotted before it is gone. What do you think the choices in life that are available to you will be like when power house companies are through conglomerating the market? When giants like NBC form subsidiaries with the likes of Genereal Electric, Comcast, Telemundo, Universal Resorts, well you get the idea.
The bottom line is, as time goes by, we all must get used to things being crammed down our throats the way that the "guys with the ties" want it to be. At least we still have enough liberties allotted to us so we can speak our minds without being incriminated for doing so. That is, until the oil companies that we allow to control our lifestyles gobble up piss ant companies, comparatively speaking, like NBC Universal and gain even more control over our choices and freedoms. Wow! That badassmav is one paranoid twisted dude! Maybe, but I sure miss yesterday...
Man, another rant! I really am old.
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