Kawasaki Teryx LT Compendium

[JoeyD23]

So since the other thread started by Dez-Racer regarding Teryx LT Suspension kits kind of got off track I have decided to move a couple of the key posts over here and start a fresh thread dedicated to this subject and based around the specs and facts of the kits.

I think this is a good opportunity for ALL companies manufacturing Long Travel Suspensions to come onto the Underground and tell us a little about their kit. Feel free to include a link to their site and any pictures are more than welcome!!!

I think in these discussions we should begin to start talking about details and not just general observations or opinions. so we will start here with BYC or if anyone else wants to throw in how their kit is deisgnd and what makes it the best?


Some things to put in:

Arm Construction: Boxed - Tube - is it Chromoly or?

Components: Uniball Both Upper Lower - Ball Joints Upper Lower - Uniball/Ball Joint combo

Shock Towers: Front and Back - Just Front - Just Back - None

Width: +3 - +5 - +6

Length: +2 Forward - +2 Back - Both - None

Shocks: ANY - Fox - Walkers - King - Elka - Other

Suspension Travel: Front________ - Rear________

Include details you feel are important such as if the shocks provided are pre valved for the kit, if the kit carries a warranty, manufacturer of reccomended axles/cv's, and anything else you feel important for a consumer to know.



Did I leave anything out? Copy and paste the above listing and highlight your answers. This info is what matters who runs what doesnt mean anything IMO, its the old Ford vs. Chevy argument and I think Chevy Sucks! LOL

 

[JoeyD23]

COGNITO Teryx Kit

COGNITO

Joey the cognito kit is not quite ready for release yet. Justin is planning a day with fox to go out and get the shocks dialed in before its ready to hit the market....We ran the sheeet out of it @ dumont T day and it works great but it needs a little valving yet....There will also be a shock tower model available using the new Fox position sensitive shocks hopefully it was alright for me to let the cat out of the bag

Some specs on the Cognito kit

Arm Construction: Boxed - Tube - Boxed load arm/ tube non load arm

Components: Uniball Upper and lower

Shock Towers: Optional with Fox Position sensitive shocks

Width: +5

Length: +0 Forward - +1 Back

Shocks: - Fox - Standard/rc-2/position sensitive

Susepension Travel: Front___16"_____ - Rear___16"_____ dont quote me on travel

from the other thread..........

 

[JoeyD23]

Re: COGNITO Teryx Kit

LONG TRAVEL INDUSTRIES

Long Travel Industries

Arm Construction: Engineered in Solidworks CnC lasered Boxed Chromoly ....Lighter than most tube arm kits on the market

Components: FK 7/8" teflon coated spherical bearings Both Upper Lower with heat treated 17-4 S.S tapered pins

Shock Towers: None

Width: +5

Length: 1.78" Of total wheel base added

Shocks: Standard with king 2.0 but will work with walker, fox and most other 2" coilovers

Susepension Travel: Front 14" - Rear 14"

 

[lawnmowerepair man]

I still VOTE HRT They look tight with
SLIME GREEN powder!!!!

 

[LSRGreg]

Here are the details on our kits:

MTS +3 Kit details:
Arm Construction: Tube, certified aircraft 4130 tube, CNC laser cut 4130 tabs and gussets, TIG welded

Components: Ball Joints Upper Lower

Shock Towers: None

Width: +3

Length: +0 Forward - +1 Back

Shocks: uses stock length, Tuned Foxes and Elkas recommeneded and normally sold with kit

Suspension Travel: Front__11.5______ - Rear___12.5_____

Kit comes with lifetime warranty on a-arms and axle shafts, easy adjust caster, and powdercoated finishes, complete with instructions and all hardware needed for installation.

XTR +5 Kit details:
Arm Construction: Tube, certified aircraft 4130 tube, CNC laser cut 4130 tabs and gussets, TIG welded

Components: Ball Joints Upper Lower

Shock Towers: None

Width: +5

Length: +0 Forward - +1 Back

Shocks: uses long travel shocks, Tuned Foxes and Elkas recommeneded and normally sold with kit

Suspension Travel: Front__14.8______ - Rear___16.25_____

Kit comes with lifetime warranty on a-arms and axle shafts, easy adjust caster, and powdercoated finishes, complete with instructions and all hardware needed for installation.

XTR-F +5 Kit details:
Arm Construction: Tube, certified aircraft 4130 tube, CNC laser cut 4130 tabs and gussets, TIG welded

Components: Ball Joints Upper Lower

Shock Towers: Front and Rear (rear clears 12 gal fuel cell, front requires cutting of hood)

Width: +5

Length: +0 Forward - +1 Back

Shocks: uses tuned Fox position sensitive shocks with dual rate springs (8.5" travel front, 10" travel rear)

Suspension Travel: Front__15.5______ - Rear___15.5_____

Kit comes with lifetime warranty on a-arms and axle shafts, easy adjust caster, and powdercoated finishes, complete with instructions and all hardware needed for installation. The XTR-F kit is meant for racing and has ideal shock geometery for serious use and abuse with extra resistance to bottoming out with the position sensitive shocks. It is also compatable with Gear One centerboard hub kit with the use of limit straps on rear end.

Kit is also upgradable from XTR to XTR-F with purchase of shock towers and shocks.

All of our kits are designed 100% in CAD, along with the welding fixtures to ensure perfect geometery and quality, and have been for many years. Then each kit is tested and tuned with the shocks for a variety of terrian. Most kits have shocks that are dialed for Dunes, Desert, MX Racing, etc, so be sure to specify upon ordering.

Thanks!

www.lsracing.com

 

[MAGNUM OFFROAD]

MAGNUM OFFROAD

Kawasaki Teryx +6 Suspension System

Arm Construction: 4130 Chromoly Tube Construction

Components: Upper FK Rod End For Camber Adjustment / Lower FK Teflon Lined Spherical Bearing

Width: +6 Length: +0

Shocks: Fox Racing 2.0 Shocks w/ Remote Reservoir (Adjusters Also Available)

Suspension Travel: Front 16" - Rear 15"

Kit comes complete with everything needed for installation including Summers Brothers 4340 extended axles and 4130 tie rod extensions. The system also features a Limited Lifetime Warranty that covers any defects in materials or craftsmanship.

Feel free to contact us with any questions!

 

[DASARACING]

Any with adjustable castor or adjustable camber? How about rear tow? ..... anyone with the ability to adjust the rear tow?

 

[KJSmith84]

Any with adjustable castor or adjustable camber? How about rear tow? ..... anyone with the ability to adjust the rear tow?

well anyone with a heim upper can do camber.

why would you want to do rear toe?

 

[DASARACING]

well anyone with a heim upper can do camber.

yeah ... but the shocks are mounted to the upper a-arms on most kits. I woudl not like to run inner hiems on the a-arm that the shock mounts to.

why would you want to do rear toe?

The teryx has rear toe stock .......

 

[07fj]

yeah ... but the shocks are mounted to the upper a-arms on most kits. I woudl not like to run inner hiems on the a-arm that the shock mounts to.



The teryx has rear toe stock .......

HRT corrects this to Zero.

 

[lawnmowerepair man]

MAGNUM OFFROAD

Kawasaki Teryx +6 Suspension System

Arm Construction: 4130 Chromoly Tube Construction

Components: Upper FK Rod End For Camber Adjustment / Lower FK Teflon Lined Spherical Bearing

Width: +6 Length: +0

Shocks: Fox Racing 2.0 Shocks w/ Remote Reservoir (Adjusters Also Available)

Suspension Travel: Front 16" - Rear 15"



Kit comes complete with everything needed for installation including Summers Brothers 4340 extended axles and 4130 tie rod extensions. The system also features a Limited Lifetime Warranty that covers any defects in materials or craftsmanship.

Feel free to contact us with any questions!

I LIKE GREEN!!!!

 

[KJSmith84]

I LIKE GREEN!!!!

x2!!

that car looks good- not as good as mine but close

 

[DASARACING]

HRT corrects this to Zero.

NICE ..... now your talking. I think this is the first thing i would do if i was designing a LT kit. I would like to try to run it a few ways. Stock then with about 1/4 toe in and then ZERO toe in.

 

[BiggJim]

yeah ... but the shocks are mounted to the upper a-arms on most kits. I woudl not like to run inner hiems on the a-arm that the shock mounts to.



The teryx has rear toe stock .......

The cognito rhino kit has all heim pick up points....With the added cost its not doing real well....Most guys aren't looking to pay for those kinds of options.

The cognito Teryx kit is toed in about 1/2 degree on each side.

 

[DASARACING]

I am not a big fan of rod ended heims ...... i think it has about 1 inch or total toe stock? I will have a new kit on my 2010 that will have adjustable camber and adjustable toe WITHOUT heims. I had his kit on my rhino and it was pretty SIK. Just seeing what other options are out there before i pull the trigger.

 

[BiggJim]

Re: COGNITO Teryx Kit

COGNITO



from the other thread..........

I stand corrected on the travel...some more info

Travel front and rear is 14".

Material is all mild steel, and has no problem taking the abuse, so i steered clear of the chromoly.

Price with summers bros 300M rear shafts and 4340 front shafts, and

FOX piggyback non adjustable shocks is $3940.00

FOX piggyback RC2 adjustable shocks is $4540.00

FOX piggyback position sensitive shock with front and rear shock towers $not yet

 

[Rusty5150]

Toe in on the rear is not a bad thing. Most independent rear suspensions are designed this way. The toe in helps with cornering and tracking straight. Negative camber is also not a bad thing. The camber can be set at -3degrees so when rail a corner the tire corrcts to 0 degrees putting the full contact patch on the ground. Mafia sets up their Rhino arms like this.

 

[DASARACING]

Toe in on the rear is not a bad thing. Most independent rear suspensions are designed this way. The toe in helps with cornering and tracking straight.

I am notsaying it is bad ..... what i am saying is WHO has tested it both ways? or with less toe? or maybe more toe? I am pretty sure most people building kits have not tested this. So it woudl be cool to hear from someone that did test it or someone that makes and adjustable kit. Thats all i am saying .....BEST YOU KNOW IS THE BEST YOU HAVE BEEN IN.

 

[Rusty5150]

Chad Mittag did some testing with and without. There is alot of suspension geometry books that discuss this. I will look for some more info on this tomorrow.

 

[DASARACING]

Chad Mittag did some testing with and without.

Who is that and what kit for the teryx does he build?

There is alot of suspension geometry books that discuss this. I will look for some more info on this tomorrow.

i am sure there are opinions for everything, but i like to test them and see what i find to work. If you just follow what everyone else has you will be doing just that .......