so if Robby Gordon races in the Pro Production UTV class (N/A), you dont think that will be the premier class?
BTW i bet he races in the turbo class with an NA car.
BITD adds new Pro Turbo Production UTV class
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so if Robby Gordon races in the Pro Production UTV class (N/A), you dont think that will be the premier class?
BTW i bet he races in the turbo class with an NA car.
jimbeaver15
The Down & Dirty Off-Road Show
Nope, what I am saying is the Unlimited Class is unlimited, and is pretty much a class no one cares about. You want to build a radical turbo engine, do it there. Leave the current NA pro production class as is because it's doing just fine, but you don't want to open up the engine rules in the new Turbo class... It will turn in to a massively expensive arms race that will have 2 or 3 very well funded teams out front and everyone else as also rans. It will not be good for UTV Racing. In my opinion Turbo class should be stock engine except exhaust, intake, clutch and ECU.
As for Robby Gordon... He'd run in NA just to kick everyone in Turbo's ass and prove a point.
i dont believe anyone is trying to build a turbo monster in the pro turbo production class. We should be able to modify parts that may not last in desert racing tho. Also we should allow open ecu, otherwise the canam will run away with things because they can change the speed limiter without flashing the ecu, the polaris cant.
acme
Active Member
Because that is what the Mfr's and a few special interests want. It's not about the racers that show up and make the events and classes happen, it's about the special interests and mfr's getting what is best for them...
Just run the same rules as the NA class
Bore, stroke, Block, Heads and Turbo. Heck if you wanna slow them down more force the stock injectors. The stock turbo will be the limiting factor.
acme
Active Member
FYI: They will let a IRS buggy style vehicles run in TT or Trick Truck in both BITD or SCORE if it has a conforming truckish or acceptable body. SCORE has outlawed the live axle truggies (TT w/o a body) in class 1 but B ITD still allows the truggies (TT's w/o the body) due to special interests...
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agree! stock turbo and stock fuel injectors
Bajaxp
SXS Racer Extraordinaire - UTVUnderground Approved
Robby is obviously very fast, but he can kill a Trophy Truck. Just think what he would do to a NA Ute trying to keep up with a turbo car. And it is an Arctic Cat! Doh...
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
stupid question were is this new rule/class even posted at or is it a rumor?
Simms started a rumor
the only thing set so far is the names of the classes
Two production classes one turbo, one non, and then let the fastest guys with the most money migrate up to the unlimited class. Where they can run whatever their imagination and wallet will allow, thats been the lure of desert racing from the get go. People tinkering in their shops to come up with the next great thing to beat the other guy. Shouldn't be about what the manufactures think or want, it should be about who can build something that goes faster in the desert then the next guy. Desert racing has always evolved into the unlimited class being the top class, TT, CLASS 1 why should be this be any different.
baja specialist
Well-Known Member
My opinion would be let the turbo cars mess with the ECU, the intake, and the exhaust. Other than that keep it stock bore and stroke, stock injectors and turbo. All of those things are easily checked and they are basic. It does not have to be this hard of a process.
As far as a Premier class. I guess we will see what class is fastest and gets the most attention. There is not going to be "two Premier classes" that is just like giving everyone a trophy because they tried really really hard. There will only be one Premier class and only one UTV winner. The others will be class winners.
I can see it now after the Mint 400 there will be three different race reports and all will be claiming that they won the Mint 400. And only after you read on will you realize that the only thing they won was there class and they were infact a long ways behind the real UTV winner.
I don't really think it has to do with entries in a class that make it a Premier class. Instead I think it has to do with how fast the class is and how much media attention it gets.
As far as a Premier class. I guess we will see what class is fastest and gets the most attention. There is not going to be "two Premier classes" that is just like giving everyone a trophy because they tried really really hard. There will only be one Premier class and only one UTV winner. The others will be class winners.
I can see it now after the Mint 400 there will be three different race reports and all will be claiming that they won the Mint 400. And only after you read on will you realize that the only thing they won was there class and they were infact a long ways behind the real UTV winner.
I don't really think it has to do with entries in a class that make it a Premier class. Instead I think it has to do with how fast the class is and how much media attention it gets.
As far as class winners, I agree, but thats the way it's always been. Back in 2007 at the 40th baja 1000 we won the baja 1000 in class 7, Post won in TT so because we are both trucks does that some how make our win that much less. No we were running in different classes, Just like there will be a class 10, class 12, class 1, 1600, winner at the Mint all Buggies but running in different classes, you will never hear the class 1 teams bragging that they beat a class 10 car and so on. So now there are 4 UTV classes and yes there will be 4 winners of the Mint. Not if or when it happens someone will build an Unlimited car with twice the travel and horsepower as a pro production car and will be winning the overall's at all of the races. And I guess everybody will bow down to him as the overall UTV winner.
The word premier is not in the name of any class. And you are right, just because the word pro is in the name of the class, does not make a racer a pro.
So what if some na cars want to race the turbo class? At least they have a choice not to. You may not understand this but then again you don't have a dog in the fight.
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staggs
Active Member
So you think Yamaha, artic cat and john deer to say want this ? Just saying
rockstarcustomz
RoCkStAr CuStOm MoToRsPoRtS - UTVUnderground Appro
Hey thanks whoever you are, Not only am I winning the championship in the Unlimited class, I have placed in the top 15 out of 50 of your "premier" class every race. Do you even race?
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
Lol you 2 are neighbors he drive a little single seat TT #15
rockstarcustomz
RoCkStAr CuStOm MoToRsPoRtS - UTVUnderground Appro
haha thanks Rito, I know who he thinks he is
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
I know you do thought you make fun of his little truck that nobody will ride with him lolhaha thanks Rito, I know who he thinks he is
baja specialist
Well-Known Member
I am not trying to take away anybody's achievements or discredit the hard work it takes to get a win. All I was trying to get at is the thought that there would be two Premier UTV classes is kind of ridiculous. And again, not trying to knock your class 7 win but it is not the same win that Post got in the Trophy Truck. In the world of racing a win in the TT class is worth way more than a win in a class 7. Just try to sell both of the wins to sponsors and see how much you get for each. It is the same way in the UTV class. A win's a win, but we all know that a win in the Pro Production class is worth a lot more to sponsors than a win in the Unlimited class.
And I do think what Latricia and her team are doing in the Unlimited class is good work great publicity for the class. They have proven that they can run good and finish races.
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