Front tire lean?

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Why are my front tires leaning like this / \? I have also noticed that they do it alot more when they back up. I have jacked it up and everything fils ok. No movement at all. I have seen a lot of Rhinos that look like this. Is something bent?


Tim
 
Do you have stock suspension or aftermarket?

That is your camber...if your tires are leaning inwards then you have negative camber. Since you said that it happens when you back up it is probably due to your toe settings and the fact that the Rhino has no anti-dive built into the upper arm.

Anti-dive is the rearward tilt of the upper arm to help to help vehicles when braking...it literally counteracts the upper arm's tendency to move forward and down (dive) when the brakes are applied. With little to no anti-dive and decent traction, the car will nose dive aggressively when the brakes are heavily applied.

This can also affect steering in turns. Too much anti dive and the front end will "float" and you will have very little steering response. Too much dive and you will have a very unstable chassis when entering a turn with a tendency to oversteer and traction will be little when trying to power out of the turn.

The camber setting isn't adjustable on stock Rhino suspension. If you are seeing large amounts of camber movement, check your ball joints and all of your mounting holes for wear and possibly your frame for bent or damaged area if you run it hard or jump it without a gusset kit.
 
Do you have stock suspension or aftermarket?

That is your camber...if your tires are leaning inwards then you have negative camber. Since you said that it happens when you back up it is probably due to your toe settings and the fact that the Rhino has no anti-dive built into the upper arm.

Anti-dive is the rearward tilt of the upper arm to help to help vehicles when braking...it literally counteracts the upper arm's tendency to move forward and down (dive) when the brakes are applied. With little to no anti-dive and decent traction, the car will nose dive aggressively when the brakes are heavily applied.

This can also affect steering in turns. Too much anti dive and the front end will "float" and you will have very little steering response. Too much dive and you will have a very unstable chassis when entering a turn with a tendency to oversteer and traction will be little when trying to power out of the turn.

The camber setting isn't adjustable on stock Rhino suspension. If you are seeing large amounts of camber movement, check your ball joints and all of your mounting holes for wear and possibly your frame for bent or damaged area if you run it hard or jump it without a gusset kit.


Thanks for the reply. The Rhino suspension is stock. I jacked it up and could not get anything to move on the front tires. So I was thinking the balljoints were good, but did not know. I do not jump it jus trail ride it.

Tim
 
can you post a picture of it. I havent seen a stocker with that much negative camber before......
 
Sorry it took so long to get the pic. I crancked the shocks all the way up and it does not look as bad now. Sorry I did not take a pic befor I did that. I might put them back like they were and take a pic if anyone wants.

Tim
 

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Something is definately going on with the passenger side, more than just too much toe in.
 
passenger side doesnt look all that bad. The driver def looks like you might have a bit much toe in. center your steering wheel an measure across the front of the tire, and than the back of your tire, about halfway up. you should have 1/8" toe in. Maybe that will help. Being as stock units dont have any hiems to adjust camber with. Hopefuly that helps.
 
I was getting on to ask how much toe in it should have, but you beat me to it. I took off the wheels and used a leval place flat agains the hub to measure. I set it up with 1/8 in toe in, but did not kow if that was right or not. with the wheel centerd the tierod rod on the driver side had alot more threads showing. So I set it with the wheel off alittle to help with the threads.

I had it pull the threads out on the passenger side one time. It only had three threads holding it in the tierod. I bought it that way and did not know the spindle was bent. I beat it back down untill I got a spindle. I drove it that way for a while. With out any problems.

I am going to drive it a little to see how it does. It tracks pretty strate going down the road.

Tim
 
I was getting on to ask how much toe in it should have, but you beat me to it. I took off the wheels and used a leval place flat agains the hub to measure. I set it up with 1/8 in toe in, but did not kow if that was right or not. with the wheel centerd the tierod rod on the driver side had alot more threads showing. So I set it with the wheel off alittle to help with the threads.

I had it pull the threads out on the passenger side one time. It only had three threads holding it in the tierod. I bought it that way and did not know the spindle was bent. I beat it back down untill I got a spindle. I drove it that way for a while. With out any problems.

I am going to drive it a little to see how it does. It tracks pretty strate going down the road.

Tim


set the toe in at ride height WITH the tires on like BRP suggested.
 
I will recheck it, and do it with the tires on.What about were I have alot more threads showing on the one tierod rod?

Tim
 
I will recheck it, and do it with the tires on.What about were I have alot more threads showing on the one tierod rod?

Tim


pull the boots back and center your rack, measuring the exposed shaft on both sides, then check your steering wheel. then set your toe equally on both sides, then drive and make sure your steering is still straight.
 
pull the boots back and center your rack, measuring the exposed shaft on both sides, then check your steering wheel. then set your toe equally on both sides, then drive and make sure your steering is still straight.


I did not know you could pull the boots back and center the rack. I will check it and see what I can do thanks.

Tim
 
I pulled the boots back on the rack, but did not see how to center it? I must be missing something? How do you center it? Sorry for all the questions.


Tim
 
I pulled the boots back on the rack, but did not see how to center it? I must be missing something? How do you center it? Sorry for all the questions.


Tim

measure each side of the shaft coming out from the rack body. just pick a point and use the same point on the other side, then you know it is centered.
 

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