SCORE UTV Championship decided by unearned finish points!!!

[SiltSifter]

During the SCORE Desert Challenge. Marc Burnett did not complete all of the laps as required to receive finish points.

FACT: Marc's car was limping around the track.
FACT: SCORE allowed Marc to stop his race early, so we will never know if he would have had more problems or not.
FACT: Roger Norman and Marc Burnett are "Good Friends"

Here is the part where that leads me to think some cheating went on.

SCORE shortened the Trophy Truck & Trophy Truck spec races. But all racers were treated the same. And it was noted correctly in the official results.

Any and all other classes and racers were noted their actual laps completed and time on course in the official results.

But in those same official results SCORE posted for Burnett, they published a phoney time. (Well after the time Marc left the track) And they posted that Marc completed all of the laps. If there was not a cover up, why post lies in the official results?

OK so SCORE decided to allow Marc to shorten his race . No other racers in the entire event got this luxury. But others did fail to complete one or more laps and were scored as DNF.

Yup I should be wearing a tinfoil hat. But this is competition. There is a lot on the line, some folks make their living racing. Favoritism has no place in professional racing.

This changed the outcome of the Championship!!!!

Shame on SCORE!
Shame on Burnett!!!

Bud

 

[NIKAL]

Bud I have to ask were you at the race and where did you get all these facts? Also what team are you associated with?

So if what you said is all fact and did happen, why is it that we have not heard from one single UTV racer about this? There are a dozen teams on this site who post on a regular basis, including the 2nd in points Jagged X team, the Baja 1000 winner and several more.

How is it if this really happened not a single one of them is bringing this up? Trust me as a racer if I was in this class, and if what you claim happened, I would be on this like Stink on Shit! Yet no one but you is talking about this. This topic seems to be a regular discussion with you. This makes me think you have a personal issue with either Score or Marc Burnett.

And regarding Facts did you know Polaris is fairly large sponsor of Score? Knowing Roger Norman and knowing he is all business, why would he want to help his friend Marc Burnett who races a Can Am, when its Polaris that is paying his bills? You would think it would be more beneficial for Score if Polaris won that race and the Score Championship.

Like you said "But this is competition. There is a lot on the line, some folks make their living racing. Favoritism has no place in professional racing." You are 100% right. So with that said why is it again that you seem to be the only one talking about this? Not one other team has posted about this, or as far as I know has gone to Score about this, and no one is denying that Marc won the Championship fair & square.

 

[facteryfmf]

Bud I have to ask were you at the race and where did you get all these facts? Also what team are you associated with?

So if what you said is all fact and did happen, why is it that we have not heard from one single UTV racer about this? There are a dozen teams on this site who post on a regular basis, including the 2nd in points Jagged X team, the Baja 1000 winner and several more.

How is it if this really happened not a single one of them is bringing this up? Trust me as a racer if I was in this class, and if what you claim happened, I would be on this like Stink on Shit! Yet no one but you is talking about this. This topic seems to be a regular discussion with you. This makes me think you have a personal issue with either Score or Marc Burnett.

And regarding Facts did you know Polaris is fairly large sponsor of Score? Knowing Roger Norman and knowing he is all business, why would he want to help his friend Marc Burnett who races a Can Am, when its Polaris that is paying his bills? You would think it would be more beneficial for Score if Polaris won that race and the Score Championship.

Like you said "But this is competition. There is a lot on the line, some folks make their living racing. Favoritism has no place in professional racing." You are 100% right. So with that said why is it again that you seem to be the only one talking about this? Not one other team has posted about this, or as far as I know has gone to Score about this, and no one is denying that Marc won the Championship fair & square.

He's right. But it wasn't the only shady stuff that happened during that weekend in the utv class.

 

[SiltSifter]

Todd,

Your right it rubbed me the wrong way when I saw it happen. So now its a point of contention with me. If Marc would have won the Championship by 31 or more points. I would have never brought it up again. But it did change the outcome of the championship.

Humor me. If by slight chance it is, as I described, would you not be upset as a racer?

Who cares what manufacture's or big name racers are involved. If they sway a promoters judgment then that is even worse.

Now is the time for race teams to speak up. Don't be pussy's!


Bud.

 

[SiltSifter]

He's right. But it wasn't the only shady stuff that happened during that weekend in the utv class.

Speak up! Lets hear it!

 

[calstyl2]

Take it up with SCORE, I have Rogers number if you wanna throw it towards him, its done and over with.

The result would of been the same if they had been kept on the track, just the rest of the event would of been delayed longer.

You sound like a petty baby with this.

 

[facteryfmf]

Lol. I have no part in this as it didn't affect me or my team.

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I'm surprised more never spoke up.

 

[mearsman]

Sore losers and drivers who don't have talent bitch about anything they can to make themselves feel better. Know the facts retard. Marc was TOLD to stop. It wasn't voluntary. Grow up

 

[calstyl2]

And Polaris is a SCORE sponsor so that argument sucks, simple fact was there were 20-30 local kids who earned rides in RPM and Moss trucks and buggies ans were waiting for the track to clear for their rides and they pulled the Mav off cause we all know Trophy Trucks and UTVs dont mix well.

 

[NIKAL]

Todd,

Your right it rubbed me the wrong way when I saw it happen. So now its a point of contention with me. If Marc would have won the Championship by 31 or more points. I would have never brought it up again. But it did change the outcome of the championship.

Humor me. If by slight chance it is, as I described, would you not be upset as a racer?

Who cares what manufacture's or big name racers are involved. If they sway a promoters judgment then that is even worse.

Now is the time for race teams to speak up. Don't be pussy's!


Bud.

Like I said if I was racing in this class and if Favoritism was in play I would be all over this like Stink on Shit. I have read what Reid has said as to why they were flagged in and scored the way they were. I also know their were multiple scoring issues that weekend. Judy Smith even wrote about it in here write up about the race. I and too have raced with Score and I too have had timing & scoring issues that effected my race and outcome. So was Marc scored wrong? Maybe, maybe not, depending on the situation and the situation sounded like Score wanted the UTV's off the course so they could proceed with giving TT rides. You have to listen to the Score official and if they stop you and say your done and score you as done, and score you as finishing, then that is what you get. Once the results are official and posted they cant go back and just change them. In the end Score makes the finial decision and you either live with it or race somewhere else.

And like I asked do we know if any teams contacted Score at the race or after to dispute the finish of any of the racers?

You said "Who cares what manufacture or big names are involved"? That is my point you are claiming favoritizm, yet if this was the case I would think Roger & Score would lean more towards Polaris and the Jagged X team as Polaris is a Official Sponsor of Score and Jagged X is considered the "Factory team for Polaris" and was second in points at that time. I would think Score would have more to benifit with Polaris winning then a Can Am team with limited support.

 

[SiltSifter]

The result would of been the same if they had been kept on the track, just the rest of the event would of been delayed longer.
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REALLY! How can you guarantee that?? Lots of off-road races have been lost in the last %15 of the race. Especially with an already broken car.

 

[calstyl2]

How can you say it wouldn't? your not writing the checks or putting on the event, so you have no say, I say create your own series and see how easy it is.

Burnett could of/should of/didnt yadda yadda.........its done and is not gonna change.
I dont see JDX or anyone else whining like you are about it.

 

[SiltSifter]

Know the facts retard. Marc was TOLD to stop. It wasn't voluntary.

This has nothing to do with growing up. It has everything to do with the fact that, ONE and ONLY ONE racer was allowed to stop his race early, and received finish points. Safety is a GOOD reason to stop a race early, but not because your course workers want to go home early, so end the race early, and get on with the charity event.

Not fair to all racers involved.

 

[Kalop]

IF MARC WAS INSTRUCTED TO STOP AND LEAVE THE COURSE, YET HE WAS STILL FUNCTIONAL AND ABLE TO CONTINUE, HOW IS THIS MARC ISSUE?

SOUNDS LIKE YOUR ONLY POSSIBLE ISSUE IS WITH SCORE, SO TAKE IT UP WITH ROGER, WHO'S NOT ON THIS FORUM.

 

[calstyl2]

This has nothing to do with growing up. It has everything to do with the fact that, ONE and ONLY ONE racer was allowed to stop his race early, and received finish points. Safety is a GOOD reason to stop a race early, but not because your course workers want to go home early, so end the race early, and get on with the charity event.

Not fair to all racers involved.

It had nothing to do with course workers going home early, we dont get paid, it had to do with available lighting and trying to get all the kids through during the daylight. There were several trucks running the course with kids in them when the Mav popped back into the short course and the realization that, that UTV had already had a issue with a truck at V2R.

 

[Kalop]

ONLY ONE racer was allowed to stop

YOU CLAIM FACTS... BUT YOU KEEP SAYING "ALLOWED"

THIS IS NOT A FACT

THIS IS YOUR ACCUSATION...

HOW DO YOU PROVE "ALLOWED" ???? THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, THE CLAIMANT.

SCORE, MARC, AND ALL OTHERS CLAIM THE FACT IS MARC WAS INSTRUCTED TO STOP.

THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

 

[Blue Coyote]

Your issue is with SCORE - should have been taken ip with them THAT day, not weeks and months later. Calling out a driver / team because you do not like how the sanctioning body determined results is a shit move.
Go mix some more hateraid in with you sour grapes.

 

[SiltSifter]

OK,

Maybe this should be directed 100% at SCORE.

Does it not concern anyone here that SCORE would publish a phony finish time and lap count in the "Official Results"

Does that not reek of "cover up"?


Why not just post it as it is, with an asterisk claiming stopped short due to reasons beyond control. (or something like that)



I know ....I know .....I'm a hater!!!!!

 

[facteryfmf]

His lap times would not have allowed him to complete the laps in the time allotted. It has nothing to do with if he would have finished the laps.

 

[Heybeerman]

And like I asked do we know if any teams contacted Score at the race or after to dispute the finish of any of the racers?

I was the codawg in the JaggedX 1932 car for that race. I thought it was weird Marc got back to the pits right after we did. When he should still be making laps. I drove over to the scoring trailer and asked them what was going on. They told me no one there could answer that. I asked where I could find someone who could. I was told they went home.

This was still within the alloted time for the UTV race.