Official: 2014 Mint 400 race thread
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facteryfmf
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Proud of our teams perseverance and never give up attitude. Tough day but a finish. We cannot say thank you enough to the 1991 Rampage off road racing team of Jordan Hansen, Jim Osier and Mike Colosimo.
Bret901
Team South 1922
I think we ended up 7th, she took a beating but held together long enough to finish.View attachment 11936View attachment 11937
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They need to make it a 2 day race and have every class run 400 miles. First race on Friday and second race on Saturday.
Booyah!
Bajaxp
SXS Racer Extraordinaire - UTVUnderground Approved
Just a clarification: is this 'gay pride' Justin, or 'my race RZR is for sale' Justin. Just check'n.
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></O>Another big issue I have with Casey "BITD" & now Mad Media is the the fact Casey claims his decisions are all about safety. Having a morning group & afternoon group is about safety. Short changing the limited classes mileage is about giving them a better chance to finish in time & about safety. BITD & the BLM limiting the number of entry's is about safety. Moving the class 10's from the afternoon 400 mile race to the morning 300 max mile race is about safety.
BITD had a waiting list, mostly of limited cars. Yet BITD found plenty of available entrys in the sportsmen class to allow many TT & Class 1 teams to "Prerun" there 6,000 lbs TT's in the morning race with the slow, small, light weight cars. So it is unsafe to allow class 10 to race in the afternoon, it's unsafe to have slow & fast cars on the course at the same time, it's unsafe to allow every entry try to race the advertised mileage. But it is totally safe to let TT's & big Prerunners to race in the morning?
Give me a break! Casey's rules & theory's are a total joke.
If he was really worried about safety, UTV's would be racing in the 4 wheel class and start in the order of speed & finishing order. Not at the tail end of the bikes and the first class the Unlimiteds catch.
badassmav
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O.k., here it comes. Get your coffee and put on your slippers boys and girls, because Badass Mav is most likely going to put his foot into his big, loud mouth. Well, I must say that I am pretty bummed out that the winning car in this years Mint 400 for some reason could not be tracked all day long. We had no idea how far ahead of us, if at all, the favorite Polaris team was. We only knew they were ahead of us because we started the race side by side with them. The fact that the other teams could not track them was an unfair advantage to the winning team for sure. I'm expecting that the content of the communications between the driver and crew of said car included updates of our position, relative to theirs. They knew exactly how far behind, and how fast, we we're, or were not catching them. They could adjust their efforts accordingly, while we could only race our own race. Although they were faster than I expected them to be, I believe that the 8 minute gap that they beat us by was surmountable, had we had access to their position throughout the race, as they did ours. Un-official comments were made regarding our SF 250 win, and how we must have cut the course to make up the time we did in the final miles to beat the x car. For the purpose of this post, it is not necessary to name names, but you know who you are. The fact is, our victory was legit, and the Can-am guys beat the x guys hands down. On a level playing field (well, level may not be accurate since none of the drivers in our class knows the Baja terrain as well as ours does. Advantage BAM. You boys best do your homework for the 500 & 1000!) I expect that if the "Polaris" sponsored Mint 400 was won by us in a Can-am entry, and our car was not able to be tracked throughout the race, that there would again be conversations or accusations going on as to the legitimacy or fairness of our victory. Get used to it. Our short wheelbase Can-am is going to be a thorn in the side of the once-favored team(s) in EVERY race that we enter. The car is Badass, and you will now need to share a slice of your pie with us, with or without liking to do so. As you can see, I (and I mean myself, for I am not speaking for anyone else) am pretty bitter that we were not provided an equal playing field to race against the top team. No dis-respect to any other teams or their efforts, but my crosshairs are squarely set on the x cars, and the obstacle that they represent, in our quest for the pro sportsman UTV class points championship in this years SCORE series, as well as success in all of the BITD races we enter. I say my mind here. Publicly. I will NOT make accusations, off the record, as to the validity of any teams efforts. I have always acknowledged and respected all teams in my postings since joining this forum last year. Because of my confidence and cockiness, we have not received the same, and perhaps that's my fault. You publicly minimized our existence throughout last year when our hardships were most likely to your amusement. Hell, right before the awards ceremony for this race, as we entered the room and stood right in front of your table, wearing the Can-am team apparel while looking for a place to be seated, you acted like we weren't even there. Again, not even acknowledging our existence. After a minute or so, it was our driver Marc Burnett who turned and extended his hand to BS and co. , and in a class act sincerely congratulated them on their win. I can't begin to imagine how much money you Polaris guys spend to win as much as you do, but I do know that it far exceeds the tiny amount of scratch we will have invested in our efforts to take away your SCORE title this year. I do realize that what Polaris does for, and puts into the sport of UTV racing, has benefitted the sport in whole, and in a positive way. But I am kind of curious how much of the technology used in building the x cars are shared with the lower, less fortunate Polaris teams they race with. It's nothing that hasn't been done before, what you guys are winning on. Yes, the hours spent on fine tuning your machine were undoubtedly long and laborious, but the results are directly related to the money available to a given team to overcome obstacles that would otherwise be overwhelming. In reading this post, most might conclude that I'm a sore loser. Not so. An example of that is one who does not stick around for an awards ceremony when they podium-ed a race that was won by a team they choose not to acknowledge. Ouch! Now that's gotta hurt. Just acknowledge us, or me once in a while, and I won't be such an a$$hole. Enough of my bitterness for now. About the race............................................ JX has not only gotten under my skin (as Francis Albert so eloquently sang), but evidentally into Marc's head as well. They paired us (The Monster Mav and Jagged X) up, side by side for the start, for what turned out to be the battle for top honors in the Pro sportsman UTV class. Marc nearly rolled over just seconds after the green flag dropped. Undoubtedly in an effort to show supremacy over the adjacent competitor. I was not there to see it, but our modest crew member (Honest Abe) was, and told me about it upon returning to our pits. It definitely added to the level of concern I had coming into this race about our cars ability to keep up with the "X's" on a course as fast as this one. Yes, it was rough, but still fast overall. I immediately got on the horn and told Marc to re-focus, and race our race for now. Not to let them into his head, as he obviously has done. We had one flat tire, somewhere around half way through the first lap (if memory serves me correctly. I unfortunately had health issues for the second consecutive race that diverted much of my focus from the task at hand). He began picking off cars, one by one. Driving with a sense of urgency, bumping to pass those who would not respond to the sound of our horn. Let me apologize here and now to Justin Lambert, and our friends at Cognito Motorports. Marc said he nerfed them pretty hard when passing them, and that he only tried to just tap them to let them know he wanted by. He is not a man of many words, and brought it up to me a couple of times, how bad he felt about it, so I know it is sincere. I'm sure a race report from Marc will be posted soon on his Fbook page, so I wont go into details here that I am not sure of.
For the sake of disclosure, we had only two problems en-route to our 2nd consecutive podium in as many races this year. A flat tire on lap 1, and our motor started cutting out in the final miles of lap 2. Our flat tire, and subsequent pit stop cost us around 10-12 minutes total of down time. I have developed this loose equation of sorts (and I am anal about math) from last seasons racing efforts regarding down time and how it relates to our chances of a podium finish. I will take this opportunity to share it with you now, because I know how you all love it when I boast and blow, but mostly because it is the platform that I use when strategizing a race, and is proving itself to be an accurate one. For every mile raced, on the rougher courses (35-40 mph average speeds), we can have 1/10 of a minute of down time and still be in contention to win the race. An example of this would be the San Felipe 250. 250 x 6 seconds (1/10th of a minute) = 25 (minutes). For faster courses (45-50 mph average speeds), cut that in half. An example would be the Mint "200". 200 x 3 seconds (1/20th of a minute) = 10 (minutes). In the 2 races we ran this year, the down time we had was within 10 % of what the formula suggests. I'm curious if other teams apply this to their past race results it it works across the board, or even consistently. You all know that I am always sharing whatever I find that works for us. I would like to say that after talking to many of the racers and fabricators for the first time over the weekend, that I am not as smart-a-guy as I thought I was! I would also like to thank the people who approached me in contingency to thank me for my online antics. I was humbled when rolling through contingency late, and a stranger approached me and extended his hand to me, thanking me for sharing what I do. Twice, just after the General Tire tent when the thick crowd had parted to allow me to idle the car through them with its distinctive and intimidating "thump", I was brought to tears when out of the crowd a voice yelled, "Yeah! Badass Mav!" Yay, I thought! I am somebody. It was really cool.
For the sake of disclosure, we had only two problems en-route to our 2nd consecutive podium in as many races this year. A flat tire on lap 1, and our motor started cutting out in the final miles of lap 2. Our flat tire, and subsequent pit stop cost us around 10-12 minutes total of down time. I have developed this loose equation of sorts (and I am anal about math) from last seasons racing efforts regarding down time and how it relates to our chances of a podium finish. I will take this opportunity to share it with you now, because I know how you all love it when I boast and blow, but mostly because it is the platform that I use when strategizing a race, and is proving itself to be an accurate one. For every mile raced, on the rougher courses (35-40 mph average speeds), we can have 1/10 of a minute of down time and still be in contention to win the race. An example of this would be the San Felipe 250. 250 x 6 seconds (1/10th of a minute) = 25 (minutes). For faster courses (45-50 mph average speeds), cut that in half. An example would be the Mint "200". 200 x 3 seconds (1/20th of a minute) = 10 (minutes). In the 2 races we ran this year, the down time we had was within 10 % of what the formula suggests. I'm curious if other teams apply this to their past race results it it works across the board, or even consistently. You all know that I am always sharing whatever I find that works for us. I would like to say that after talking to many of the racers and fabricators for the first time over the weekend, that I am not as smart-a-guy as I thought I was! I would also like to thank the people who approached me in contingency to thank me for my online antics. I was humbled when rolling through contingency late, and a stranger approached me and extended his hand to me, thanking me for sharing what I do. Twice, just after the General Tire tent when the thick crowd had parted to allow me to idle the car through them with its distinctive and intimidating "thump", I was brought to tears when out of the crowd a voice yelled, "Yeah! Badass Mav!" Yay, I thought! I am somebody. It was really cool.
Heybeerman
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dnf736
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Jersey Motorsports
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does anyone know if these guys are on here or how I can get in contact with them?
The 1926 car let us borrow some parts at the main pit when we were having issues and they were gone when we got the car back to main.
1926 Jason Fraser (40) Snohomish, WA,
Mark Sundberg (45) Seattle, WA,
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The 1926 car let us borrow some parts at the main pit when we were having issues and they were gone when we got the car back to main.
1926 Jason Fraser (40) Snohomish, WA,
Mark Sundberg (45) Seattle, WA,
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the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
Actually you should be calling IRC you pay a crap load of money for there product. they are suppose to check every car before race and address before they leave start line. I will say bill schueller is a stand up guy he would do anything to help anybody out.
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