Well..... I have put alot of thought into this. I agree that power is not allways the deciding factor on what wins a race. It really depends on terain and the type of course. For instance the desert challenge course was a power course (lots of sand). Silver State, VTR Henderson are all high speed courses (from what Ive heard) lots of graded roads. The bluewater gp on the other hand is a tighter rougher track which I like. I want to enter a race feeling that I have a chance to beat the top teams, I dont want to have to depend on them not finishing. At this point my car is too slow and too heavy to compete with the top teams, especially with the new rules. I also feel that there are some other guys out there that feel the same way that I do. They still want to race but dont have the budget to build a new car. So if some of us go to sportsman not only will we be saving some money but there will be some good competion. Does that make sense???
BITD contengincy and UTVRA questions
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facteryfmf
Looking For a Few Good Men - UTVUnderground Approv
This goes for me also. After placing second in Henderson, I figured I would have a chance at the points championship. Going in, I felt under powered but it's still racing, what I love. Coming out in second, I had great hopes. At Parker, Cory passed me after about 3 miles. He had made up 3 seconds in that time. The rhino just didn't like the silty track at the beginning of the race and wouldn't pull. Then we dropped down into Osborne and before you knew it Parks and Lasher got around me. The sandy conditions lasted for about the first 27 miles until alternate pit. After the alternate pit, we got onto the graded gravel road. Which lasted for about 20 miles. The rhino would do 66mph but that's when Jagged got us. They were easily into the 70s I'd say... Parker just wasn't a track for a rhino and HP was a huge advantage. I have become really discouraged after that. Henderson was just a hard packed, rough course where suspension helped so much. Parker didn't really need that. I can't say much for the other races. I have raced Primm before but obviously we aren't racing there this year. I have raced bluewater and I think a rhino with great suspension has a chance there. I heard SS and V2R has 50 plus mile sections of graded roads but have not experienced them myself... That is discouraging to me...
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
desert racing is a endurance race sometimes power helps sometimes it kills you look at cory 2 roll over in 2 races. If it was me i wouldnt race a single cylinder utv but on the other hand look what murray was able to accomplish last year only car to do every mile. I think there like VW bad ass when they go alot of power but are like grenade with the pin almost out. just my opinion. On the guys that have rzr s that are racing still are top notch and will be look at what jagged has accomplished.
People also like to compare the utv class to 1600 class. The only problem with that comparison now is that we all dont run the same motor size. FactoryFMF knows exactly how I feel, when youre pushing your car as hard and fast as you can and get passed like youre standing still its discouraging. Dont get me wrong I love racing and think its a blast I am just going to take it down a notch and race some sportsman races. I can go into a spotsman race with alot less stress.
I have only had a good draw posssition once and the dust was still bad because of the quads and bikes so Im used to the dust.
Bajaxp
SXS Racer Extraordinaire - UTVUnderground Approved
I would be the guy who has compared it to 1/2 1600. The funny thing is that the top guys in 1/2 1600 typically beat 90% of the class 12s despite having 60 less hp and something like 4" less wheel travel. And yes they do weigh about the same. I still think it is about prep, driver, luck, set up, etc. But having said that, I am happy Big Guy is going to continue racing BITD.
People also like to compare the utv class to 1600 class. The only problem with that comparison now is that we all dont run the same motor size. FactoryFMF knows exactly how I feel, when youre pushing your car as hard and fast as you can and get passed like youre standing still its discouraging. Dont get me wrong I love racing and think its a blast I am just going to take it down a notch and race some sportsman races. I can go into a spotsman race with alot less stress.
the stripping shop
RACER - UTVUnderground Approved
i will tell everyone that wants to race bitd do a whole season by the end you will figure out whats important. Power/reliabilaty/money/race prep/new/used/parts/ and people commited to help. I forgot a good game plan and stick to it. If you just pick and choose races you will most of the time get bet by experience. do a whole season in a series doesnt matter which one and you will figure alot out in desert racing. it doesn't matter if your sportsman or pro your still commited.pro is nice to get pay back
Unless you are ready to commit big dollars and hit every race like it's the most important race out there, you are a sportsman...
Why do you race, do you race to earn the money and have your sponsors give payouts to you, or do you race for the competition and fun of it? I think most of the racers out there really don't have the money or commitment to make a run for the championship. And that is fine.
Me personally, I have no problem whatsoever to run sportsman. I will probably run sportsman in BITD this year just to get used to the series and also for the fact that I've already missed the first race of the season, so there is no way I could make a run for the championship anyway. Then I'll decide on running pro class next year. Yeah, it would be nice to get the money payouts and if I find I'm beating much of the pro class while in sportsman, I'll jump up to pro for the payouts.
But the bottom line is, I do it for the sport, for the fun, for the excitement. The minute it doesn't become fun anymore, then it's time to re-evaluate it.
BigGuy, FMF, you guys should run what ever class makes you happy, have fun at it. Yeah, I think the new RZR 900XP will be kicking butt out there, but so be it, that'll stir the other brands to get off their asses and build something comparable, or we'll all eventually end up driving RZR 900's.
Yeah, I run a big bore, but that doesn't mean I'll outrun you all the time. I've spent most of my life in one form of racing or another, and all too often, the smaller motor usually holds it own on the racecourses. There are trade offs going with either.
If you watch racers, it's usually the driver that is smoother, more fluid that wins. They know how to make their car flow around the track and get past the others. Look at Corry Weller in the LOORS series, she outran other SR1's many times, while having the same hp. Why, because she took a different line and learned to be fluid on the track. In desert racing, suspension and knowing how to read the terrain and drive thru it can make up alot for lack of hp.
Bottom line, have fun racing..enjoy this awesome sport. Do it because you love it...let it be a passion..that's what racing is all about.
Why do you race, do you race to earn the money and have your sponsors give payouts to you, or do you race for the competition and fun of it? I think most of the racers out there really don't have the money or commitment to make a run for the championship. And that is fine.
Me personally, I have no problem whatsoever to run sportsman. I will probably run sportsman in BITD this year just to get used to the series and also for the fact that I've already missed the first race of the season, so there is no way I could make a run for the championship anyway. Then I'll decide on running pro class next year. Yeah, it would be nice to get the money payouts and if I find I'm beating much of the pro class while in sportsman, I'll jump up to pro for the payouts.
But the bottom line is, I do it for the sport, for the fun, for the excitement. The minute it doesn't become fun anymore, then it's time to re-evaluate it.
BigGuy, FMF, you guys should run what ever class makes you happy, have fun at it. Yeah, I think the new RZR 900XP will be kicking butt out there, but so be it, that'll stir the other brands to get off their asses and build something comparable, or we'll all eventually end up driving RZR 900's.
Yeah, I run a big bore, but that doesn't mean I'll outrun you all the time. I've spent most of my life in one form of racing or another, and all too often, the smaller motor usually holds it own on the racecourses. There are trade offs going with either.
If you watch racers, it's usually the driver that is smoother, more fluid that wins. They know how to make their car flow around the track and get past the others. Look at Corry Weller in the LOORS series, she outran other SR1's many times, while having the same hp. Why, because she took a different line and learned to be fluid on the track. In desert racing, suspension and knowing how to read the terrain and drive thru it can make up alot for lack of hp.
Bottom line, have fun racing..enjoy this awesome sport. Do it because you love it...let it be a passion..that's what racing is all about.
Ignore Amos
Active Member
We'll said... I too am in the same boat you are...being new to racing UTV's in the BITD (I've always raced bikes in BITD/SCORE) I just want to get out with my Commander and see how it all goes..whether PRO or Sportsman.. I did race Parker (in Sappingtons Rhino) but in Sportsman as well..but do plan on having the Commander ready for the SS300..I hope to keep the stress low and the fun level high, and enjoy the experience! and btw...Glad to hear your Dad is doing better...too bad your going to miss the KOH after all you put in to being there..there's always next year!
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