All UTV's Sand Tire Review

Crowdog

UTVGuide.Net
I recently had the opportunity to try two different sets of sand tires on two powerful 2011 UTVs. Both UTVs were outfitted with sand tires from Fullerton Sand Sports. The RZR XP had buffed ITP Dunestar and Comp Cut 60/40 stagger STU Sand Blasters mounted on black DWT wheels. The Can-Am Commander 1000 had buffs up front and Play Cut STU Sand Blasters mounted on OMF Billet Center Wheels.

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Buffs up front and Play Cut STU Sand Blasters mounted on OMF Billet Center Wheels

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Buffed ITP Dunestar with center steering razor left in place

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Comp Cut 60/40 stagger STU Sand Blasters - you can really see how much extra material is removed.

I have used the play cut setup several times on my Commander, Teryx and the RZR XP (that is the awesome advantage to the OMF Billet Center wheels!). I really like the overall size and looks of this setup. These are slightly larger than the setup I have on my RZR XP and I learned something from Dave at Fullerton Sand Sports. The STU Blasters are not all the same size. They buy so many that they can mix and match to get a package that works front and rear. I think the larger size just looks awesome, and I also like the extra ground clearance and additional float provided by them. But I do think the play cut with full width paddles is a bit much for the RZR XP and Commander (not my race Teryx though!). They pull the tire fine, but after experiencing the 60/40 comp cut tires, I know there is more performance to be had.

The 60/40 stagger cut paddle has less paddle and therefore less bite. On a stock RZR XP or Commander 1000, this helps the engine keep those tires spinning easier. On the RZR XP, I felt like the climbing performance in 2 wheel drive was nearly as good as all-wheel drive. This is definitely not the case with the play cut tires with full width paddles.

Fullerton Sand Sports can also "Comp Cut" paddles. This will remove material from the paddle and reduce weight. This can make a big difference because you are taking away rotating mass on the drive wheels and this increases performance. But with every positive gain there is usually a negative. When you remove material from the tire, it is more susceptible to damage and I can attest to this! The camping area at Sand Mountain is littered with rocks. I figured this would be my biggest challenge so I was pretty careful coming in and out of camp. But on Saturday night, there was a decent wind storm. My son wanted to go to the top of the mountain to see the sunset and I did not grab my goggles. On the way back down the face, I couldn't see much but I wasn't too worried because I just had to make sure I could see the other vehicles. Just my luck, there was one random rock that someone had to have brought it up the hill and left it. Of course I had to center punch it.

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One random rock and a comp cut paddle is toast. "Comp" means "competition" and should only be used where there are no rocks & sticks.

So if you want the additional performance gains of a comp cut paddle, there are some additional cost and risks. I would not recommend a comp cut if you ride where there are rocks, sticks or even asphalt. Or if you are concerned about longevity. But if you want more performance, they are the trick.

At the end of the day, I love the size of the STU Sand Blaster over a more traditional Skat Trak or Doonz. The larger size looks way better and what you gain in float must be experienced. I think the play cut 60/40 stagger is the best tire for me. My RZR XP and Commander are relatively stock and the smaller bite lets the engine work better. If I was going to do some engine work or a turbo, the full width paddles might be better. I did like them on my race Teryx (999cc Muzzys engine :D).

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The front tires did not make a huge difference for me. I have no problem steering with the complete buff, but I think the additional razor from the Dunestar helps the front grab a little better. I think the more important piece is what size. The larger STU Sand Blasters are too tall for the modified Dunestars, so you need to get smaller STUs to match up. Again, this is a key benefit to dealing with Fullerton Sand Sports. They can create a matched set for you.

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Fullerton Sand Sports
Stanton, CA
Website: Fullerton Sand Sports - Distributor of Performance Tires & Wheels
Phone: 714-484-5996

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Jon, how much steering difference did you notice between the buffs and the razors up front?

Thanks and nice write up.
 
Jon, how much steering difference did you notice between the buffs and the razors up front?

Thanks and nice write up.

I could feel the razors on the Dunestar's grab just a little. I don't like the fronts grabbing too hard, so I thought it was about right. But like I said above, the buffs work fine for me too.
 
Jon thanks for the info.
For my Teryx, an o8 with the usual bolt ons, it is now a 4-seater but will only see a 35 lb grand daughter, would size rim 12 or 14, and how tall, and would you go with the play-cut Sand Blaster and the Dunestars in the front?
I am running the second gen ITP Terracross on 14's now, and can get around at the mountain if I run them really low on pressure. I have liked the idea of being able to run the hard stuff without changing tires, but now, with the Cognito Long Travel, I am worried that running extreme low pressure is going to cause me some misery with either tire damage or breaking a tire off the bead.
Your thoughts (and any others) would be appreciated.

Sounds like Fullerton Sand Tires is the place to go for this stuff.
 
Jon thanks for the info.
For my Teryx, an o8 with the usual bolt ons, it is now a 4-seater but will only see a 35 lb grand daughter, would size rim 12 or 14, and how tall, and would you go with the play-cut Sand Blaster and the Dunestars in the front?
I am running the second gen ITP Terracross on 14's now, and can get around at the mountain if I run them really low on pressure. I have liked the idea of being able to run the hard stuff without changing tires, but now, with the Cognito Long Travel, I am worried that running extreme low pressure is going to cause me some misery with either tire damage or breaking a tire off the bead.
Your thoughts (and any others) would be appreciated.

Sounds like Fullerton Sand Tires is the place to go for this stuff.

Jeff, it really depends on what you do at Sand Mountain. Do you want to mix dunes with some desert rides? If so, I prefer to stay with dirt tires so I don't have to swap. If you just want dune only, then I would not comp cut the tires. Since you aren't pushing a lot of power with just bolt-ons, maybe look at 60/40 or slightly less on the STUs. Call FSS and talk with Dave about it. He may have some ideas.

But you will love the extra float and size for your bad back.
 
Thanks Jon.
Power will be improved down the road, but I spent my play money on th suspension. I guess I'll run the Terracross's and carry a little inflator with me for when we are heading out onto harder ground. The paddles are probably gonna wait based on what you are saying.
I really want to avoid bead damage when coming down on the suspension hard, on whoops and stuff. I am not going to fly the car intentionally, but don't want problems, either.
 

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