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Added a few more I missed as this is a living document. Those with knowledge add your own in hopes we can create a new generation of savvy racers and never have another CA 200 incident...
Having watched the UTV vs 11 deal unfold and reading comments I figured I'd toss a few unwritten rules/basic ettiquite things out there for those that don't know and want to know or learn. For those that don't you can continue to be douchey...
1) NEVER NERF AN 11 CAR UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!! It's too easy with the way they are built to take out a motor and they start in the rear and have a challenging enough time making the timelines in most longer races...
2) If there is a line of cars a bottleneck, never cut out of line move up the side and then try to cut back in further up. This is referred to as a "Dickhead Move". One the faster cars ,will catch you and they will rightly punish you and you deserve it. If there is a car in front of you that may have a harder time up the obstacle, have your co dog hop out and nicely ask if you can go around and explain it, most will be cool but it's their call... If you get out of line and try a different line good on you, if you don't make it, it's up to the line to maybe let you back in where you were...
3) Proper nerfing technique ( please read this only after ingraining #1 into your psyche): Approach vehicle, try to pass w/o letting them know you are there (fyi it really falks them up mentally when they get driven around w/o knowing you were there...). Honk-siren, wait, look for options. Honk-siren wait a little more then if no room and they aren't even giving you a little to squeeze by or waiving then bump, wait again and if they don't yield at the first REALISTIC opening, it's game on; but be patient!
3a) As a passing vehicle: You should NEVER expect any car to wreck themselves into the rocks to move for you. Despite the fact you are a BA desert ace, you need to realize then need time to make a move and decide what's safe for them. IT's not your call!!! You need to be patient and give them some time to move, nothing in instantaneous. Give them a few seconds and realize if your on a single track they have no where to go... If they are waiving, they see you and intend to move so be a little patient... if they are blocking or just being a dick and you've been patient game on!
3b) As a passing vehicle: If you hit another car on purpose or don't give them time to move this is another Dickhead Move! If there are open lines and you don't take them and instead nerf them you are a Dickhead! If he is on your line that you preran or want and you have other options to pass but instead you hit someone because that was your line; again you are WRONG!
3c) Rule handed down by the Gods: Thou shall not nerf out of anger sayith Casey (RIP)
3d) You should realized the difference in speeds and classes when nerfing, it really takes talent to do it right and you should not inflict damage.
3e) Never nerf in a corner or in a way to cause the nerfee to lose control.
3f) Never push a bad pass in a open wheel car! It's up to the passer to make a clean/safe pass!
3g) IMHO these small square cornered cheesdick bumpers a lot of the UTV guys have were or are: 1) Illegal per the rules in both SCORE/BITD 2) The owners can't bend a tube and can only cut 45* angles so they suck. 3) the owners if requesting them made that was are asshats because they are making a point by building a bumper designed to inflict damage... I'd be more than happy to explain this to you personally if necessary.
4) As a passee(?): Once you realize by the siren or bump you are caught GTF outta the way ASAP. IMMEDIATLEY waive to acknowledge the person behind you and let them know you are trying and intend to move. Then find a space and give them as much room as you can without chancing damage to your vehicle or race. WARNING: If you rabbit on another class; especially a faster car or someone who is faster in a slower class, or even a car in your class: You are a Dick Head and deserve to get punished...
4a) NEVER RABBIT!!!!!!!! Reread #4 and proceed
5) If you are a co-driver aka passenger, aka meat-in-the-seat in a car with 2 people: Your job (and yes you have a few and it's not to just impress people at the bar with your wristband) is to check your 6 meaning: WATCH THE Go$&#MN MIRRORS!, not just the GPS and gauges and then let the driver know when a car is coming. Then you should waive your hand in the air and do it like you really care; to let the guy know who is crawling up your arse know you guys know they are there!!!!
6) If you see a wrecked car or bike: ALWAYS Slow and make sure they are okay!!! NEVER assume!!! A simple thumbs up and you can keep going, if not lend aid. Mr. Sappington helped a friend of ours on a bike in Plaster City and it possibly saved his life. Be that guy!!!
6a) If you see a fire help and give them your extinguisher. Period!!!
7) If you break, try to move it if possible, if not have your co driver flag people to warn them of the situation.
8) Never get out of a car if you can't see. My rule is never unbelt if you can't see either... Many guys have unbelted and climbed out only to get hit by then next guy in the dust. Read 7 then 8 again...
9) Baja Etiquette: You are in their country, treat then with respect and karma will come back!
10) This one some of the TT-C1 "Baller" guys will argue, but a lot of them are egotistical, self absorbed Dickheads unlike those here: Prerunning is to see the course, find lines and have fun. You don't need to do it a full race speeds. Close the gates and be cautious as it's not the race!!! Is it worth hurting someone prerunning?
11) Chasers: Don't be Dickheads! Driving like an A-hole and endangering people is stupid! Never pass in a blind corner! Plus, you can't help your team if you're in a wreck.
12) ALL: Turn those really cool LED bars off and don't blind people on the roads...
13) Prerace: Have your paperwork ready at sign up and tech and be prepared so as not to make people wait. Don't be a line cutter or blocker: Let those few: All important TT drivers be the douchebags by cutting into lines...
14) Treat all racers with respect regardless of class. They all have the same rights to the course and worked just as hard regardless if their program is worth $5K or $5M.
15) Racing is a privilege: Don't cheat or shortcourse and don't put racing jeopardy with chessedick moves or farked up attitudes. The sport is living by a string and a lot of eyes are on us. Don't be the guy that fucks it up!
16) ALL: Never spectate or pit in a corner. Never cross the course in dust. Never pass in a blind corner. Always stay back 150' (CA rule). Be aware of where you are a always watch down course.
17) Learn to correctly use the radio and radio etiquette. If you don't know it call PCI and ask them or your supplier. Every class has that guy, calling out every mile marker and rock they just missed; don't be that guy as: They are Dickheads! Unless you legally applied for a frequency you do not own it. Share like mama taught you and let everyone have their time. Thanks to the Weatherman for bringing modern comms and nav into the sport, now let's make him proud by using it correctly... Back in the early days we had no GPS and the first car I raced had a CB. We ran off arrows and ribbon and 95% of us didn't have the time, vehicle or money to prerun whether it was Barstow, Vegas or Baja. Checks used stub cans and confirming a winner took hours/days, and if you broke... Google "Stuck Stub". Be thankful for the advances but realize it's not all about you.
I know it's a lot to learn and some will balk or laugh at these stupid unwritten/common sense rules. If you do you may be part of the problem and likely a Dick Head...
I tried to explain the racing history/etiquette deal to you guys when we had the car Queen Farked up (finally got that off my chest in public) and were planning to be a UTV racers. I noticed in watching the forums back then, that there seemed to be a disconnect with a lot of the UTV racers from the core of the car classes. I was coming from a different place than a majority of the UTV racers having raced buggies and trucks for 25ish yrs (50+% was in single seaters). I was very vocal that I thought the segregation of the UTV's from the car guys created a rub, and that the UTV guys didn't get some of the sport the way the regular classes got it due to that separation. I heard and received a lot of": That's old school or UTV's are different and it's a new era as well as a bunch of other unknowing millennial type comments. I also received a few thanks but regardless it's obvious some of these secrets need to be passed on again. Hope it helps a few...
Having watched the UTV vs 11 deal unfold and reading comments I figured I'd toss a few unwritten rules/basic ettiquite things out there for those that don't know and want to know or learn. For those that don't you can continue to be douchey...
1) NEVER NERF AN 11 CAR UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!! It's too easy with the way they are built to take out a motor and they start in the rear and have a challenging enough time making the timelines in most longer races...
2) If there is a line of cars a bottleneck, never cut out of line move up the side and then try to cut back in further up. This is referred to as a "Dickhead Move". One the faster cars ,will catch you and they will rightly punish you and you deserve it. If there is a car in front of you that may have a harder time up the obstacle, have your co dog hop out and nicely ask if you can go around and explain it, most will be cool but it's their call... If you get out of line and try a different line good on you, if you don't make it, it's up to the line to maybe let you back in where you were...
3) Proper nerfing technique ( please read this only after ingraining #1 into your psyche): Approach vehicle, try to pass w/o letting them know you are there (fyi it really falks them up mentally when they get driven around w/o knowing you were there...). Honk-siren, wait, look for options. Honk-siren wait a little more then if no room and they aren't even giving you a little to squeeze by or waiving then bump, wait again and if they don't yield at the first REALISTIC opening, it's game on; but be patient!
3a) As a passing vehicle: You should NEVER expect any car to wreck themselves into the rocks to move for you. Despite the fact you are a BA desert ace, you need to realize then need time to make a move and decide what's safe for them. IT's not your call!!! You need to be patient and give them some time to move, nothing in instantaneous. Give them a few seconds and realize if your on a single track they have no where to go... If they are waiving, they see you and intend to move so be a little patient... if they are blocking or just being a dick and you've been patient game on!
3b) As a passing vehicle: If you hit another car on purpose or don't give them time to move this is another Dickhead Move! If there are open lines and you don't take them and instead nerf them you are a Dickhead! If he is on your line that you preran or want and you have other options to pass but instead you hit someone because that was your line; again you are WRONG!
3c) Rule handed down by the Gods: Thou shall not nerf out of anger sayith Casey (RIP)
3d) You should realized the difference in speeds and classes when nerfing, it really takes talent to do it right and you should not inflict damage.
3e) Never nerf in a corner or in a way to cause the nerfee to lose control.
3f) Never push a bad pass in a open wheel car! It's up to the passer to make a clean/safe pass!
3g) IMHO these small square cornered cheesdick bumpers a lot of the UTV guys have were or are: 1) Illegal per the rules in both SCORE/BITD 2) The owners can't bend a tube and can only cut 45* angles so they suck. 3) the owners if requesting them made that was are asshats because they are making a point by building a bumper designed to inflict damage... I'd be more than happy to explain this to you personally if necessary.
4) As a passee(?): Once you realize by the siren or bump you are caught GTF outta the way ASAP. IMMEDIATLEY waive to acknowledge the person behind you and let them know you are trying and intend to move. Then find a space and give them as much room as you can without chancing damage to your vehicle or race. WARNING: If you rabbit on another class; especially a faster car or someone who is faster in a slower class, or even a car in your class: You are a Dick Head and deserve to get punished...
4a) NEVER RABBIT!!!!!!!! Reread #4 and proceed
5) If you are a co-driver aka passenger, aka meat-in-the-seat in a car with 2 people: Your job (and yes you have a few and it's not to just impress people at the bar with your wristband) is to check your 6 meaning: WATCH THE Go$&#MN MIRRORS!, not just the GPS and gauges and then let the driver know when a car is coming. Then you should waive your hand in the air and do it like you really care; to let the guy know who is crawling up your arse know you guys know they are there!!!!
6) If you see a wrecked car or bike: ALWAYS Slow and make sure they are okay!!! NEVER assume!!! A simple thumbs up and you can keep going, if not lend aid. Mr. Sappington helped a friend of ours on a bike in Plaster City and it possibly saved his life. Be that guy!!!
6a) If you see a fire help and give them your extinguisher. Period!!!
7) If you break, try to move it if possible, if not have your co driver flag people to warn them of the situation.
8) Never get out of a car if you can't see. My rule is never unbelt if you can't see either... Many guys have unbelted and climbed out only to get hit by then next guy in the dust. Read 7 then 8 again...
9) Baja Etiquette: You are in their country, treat then with respect and karma will come back!
10) This one some of the TT-C1 "Baller" guys will argue, but a lot of them are egotistical, self absorbed Dickheads unlike those here: Prerunning is to see the course, find lines and have fun. You don't need to do it a full race speeds. Close the gates and be cautious as it's not the race!!! Is it worth hurting someone prerunning?
11) Chasers: Don't be Dickheads! Driving like an A-hole and endangering people is stupid! Never pass in a blind corner! Plus, you can't help your team if you're in a wreck.
12) ALL: Turn those really cool LED bars off and don't blind people on the roads...
13) Prerace: Have your paperwork ready at sign up and tech and be prepared so as not to make people wait. Don't be a line cutter or blocker: Let those few: All important TT drivers be the douchebags by cutting into lines...
14) Treat all racers with respect regardless of class. They all have the same rights to the course and worked just as hard regardless if their program is worth $5K or $5M.
15) Racing is a privilege: Don't cheat or shortcourse and don't put racing jeopardy with chessedick moves or farked up attitudes. The sport is living by a string and a lot of eyes are on us. Don't be the guy that fucks it up!
16) ALL: Never spectate or pit in a corner. Never cross the course in dust. Never pass in a blind corner. Always stay back 150' (CA rule). Be aware of where you are a always watch down course.
17) Learn to correctly use the radio and radio etiquette. If you don't know it call PCI and ask them or your supplier. Every class has that guy, calling out every mile marker and rock they just missed; don't be that guy as: They are Dickheads! Unless you legally applied for a frequency you do not own it. Share like mama taught you and let everyone have their time. Thanks to the Weatherman for bringing modern comms and nav into the sport, now let's make him proud by using it correctly... Back in the early days we had no GPS and the first car I raced had a CB. We ran off arrows and ribbon and 95% of us didn't have the time, vehicle or money to prerun whether it was Barstow, Vegas or Baja. Checks used stub cans and confirming a winner took hours/days, and if you broke... Google "Stuck Stub". Be thankful for the advances but realize it's not all about you.
I know it's a lot to learn and some will balk or laugh at these stupid unwritten/common sense rules. If you do you may be part of the problem and likely a Dick Head...
I tried to explain the racing history/etiquette deal to you guys when we had the car Queen Farked up (finally got that off my chest in public) and were planning to be a UTV racers. I noticed in watching the forums back then, that there seemed to be a disconnect with a lot of the UTV racers from the core of the car classes. I was coming from a different place than a majority of the UTV racers having raced buggies and trucks for 25ish yrs (50+% was in single seaters). I was very vocal that I thought the segregation of the UTV's from the car guys created a rub, and that the UTV guys didn't get some of the sport the way the regular classes got it due to that separation. I heard and received a lot of": That's old school or UTV's are different and it's a new era as well as a bunch of other unknowing millennial type comments. I also received a few thanks but regardless it's obvious some of these secrets need to be passed on again. Hope it helps a few...
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. That seemed to lesson the amount of nerfs for some reason... 
