2016 BITD UTV Rules/Classes

[jdrew1965]

Many people have complained and thrown in their opinion on this topic in various threads. The 2016 UTV rule book is now available on the UTVRA website. I was not that surprised by the content. I can see benefits and negatives to the new classes. For me and the xpWarrior team it can be an opportunity to end the season higher in the class standings with the majority of fast cars in another class. Of course that means we didn't really compete with all those fast cars and kinda sucks.

I do have a question and wonder if anyone has the answers or if they question the same things.

Does the Pro Unlimited class have a points champion, payback and all that like the other two pro classes? The rules do not specify. I would like to see the class start to move in a direction that the unlimited class has the fastest cars just like the other classes in off-road. I would love to see up to 80" wide UTVs with motor work and no restriction on electronics (ECU). Cars that aren't irrelevant in a year because the chassis can continue to be used and power plants change with the needs of competitive progression. In my opinion that is where the most potential for the turbo and n/a cars is. Our team plans on building another car soon and this is definitely what we would like to do. Sure would save us a whole lot of money in the long term.

Until the dust settles and the year progresses with the Pro Turbo class and Pro Production (N/A) class fighting for supremacy, we will just sit back and hope some other racers feel the same way.

 

[rockstarcustomz]

Yes the Unlimited Pro class has a championship and and paybacks. I am the current points leader in that class now.

 

[jdrew1965]

Thanks Lacrecia, it would be nice to see it in the rules.

 

[bluediamond]

Thanks Lacrecia, it would be nice to see it in the rules.

I agree. If teams thought it was absolutely necessary to boot the turbos out of the pro production class i thought the BITD should have instead moved them to the Unlimited Class. Then you would have had two real strong competitive classes. It would have been the best of both worlds. I'm sure it was one of the options that was discussed. I'd like to know what the negatives were to them ?

 

[BiggJim]

The "PRO" designation is what deems it to be a point/payout class. Look at an entry form...it spells it out

 

[jdrew1965]

BiggJim, the entry form doesn't spell it out.

 

[BiggJim]

BiggJim, the entry form doesn't spell it out.

Swear i seen it on there...maybe it was on the form showing next years classes

 

[ironworks]

BiggJim, the entry form doesn't spell it out.

That is a 2015 entry form. I don't think the unlimited class is a Pro class in 2015. I might be wrong.

 

[the stripping shop]

its on the 2016 parker entry form I believe.

 

[the stripping shop]

Yes the Unlimited Pro class has a championship and and paybacks. I am the current points leader in that class now.

Did you notice 2 shocks per corner for unlimited now. I wonder why that rule got changed hint hint can am or kitty cat? Did anybody else notice its not UTVRA rules anymore.

 

[BiggJim]

Did you notice 2 shocks per corner for unlimited now. I wonder why that rule got changed hint hint can am or kitty cat? Did anybody else notice its not UTVRA rules anymore.

I havent read the rules but I though that unlimited was always 2 shocks per corner

 

[the stripping shop]

I havent read the rules but I though that unlimited was always 2 shocks per corner

pretty sure its always been 1 shock per corner.

 

[BiggJim]

pretty sure its always been 1 shock per corner.

Early this season they told Lecrecia she had to make her car fit the unlimited rules i believe....So her and her team outfitted the car with Bumps....which classifies as another shock per corner.

 

[jaggedx]

Thanks Lacrecia, it would be nice to see it in the rules.

Look under "definitions" at the beginning of the rules. It explains that "pro" classes receive pay out and have a points championship.

 

[jaggedx]

Did you notice 2 shocks per corner for unlimited now. I wonder why that rule got changed hint hint can am or kitty cat? Did anybody else notice its not UTVRA rules anymore.

Last year 2015 rules allowed 2 shocks per corner for unlimited class. No change here.

 

[jaggedx]

Early this season they told Lecrecia she had to make her car fit the unlimited rules i believe....So her and her team outfitted the car with Bumps....which classifies as another shock per corner.

incorrect! Hydraulic bumpstops are NOT legal in production pro so by adding them her car is no longer "legal for production class and must race in Unlimited. This was a mid season reactionary rule that was put in place for no logical reason. I believe it has been removed.

 

[motive]

"UTV-15 ENGINE LOCATION AND DISPLACEMENT: For all UTV classes the Maximum engine displacement is 1000cc. Pro Turbo Production and Pro Production classes: must use stock engine cases and cylinder head. Note, Engine updates are allowed, an engine update means that a racer can put a newer engine and drivetrain in their race UTV. Engine displacement and location may be checked by Best in the Desert or UTV Racing Association at any time. Best in the Desert and UTV Racing Association reserves the right to mark or seal engine blocks prior to an event and confiscate engines after the race. Confiscated engines may not be returned."

Seams perfectly reasonable

"Blowoff valves must be OEM, stock. No aftermarket blowoff valves. Blowoff valves cannot be modified or altered."

I know there is couple turbo racers out there that will second hand blowoff valves for sale.

 

[jaggedx]

Many people have complained and thrown in their opinion on this topic in various threads. The 2016 UTV rule book is now available on the UTVRA website. I was not that surprised by the content. I can see benefits and negatives to the new classes. For me and the xpWarrior team it can be an opportunity to end the season higher in the class standings with the majority of fast cars in another class. Of course that means we didn't really compete with all those fast cars and kinda sucks.

I do have a question and wonder if anyone has the answers or if they question the same things.

Does the Pro Unlimited class have a points champion, payback and all that like the other two pro classes? The rules do not specify. I would like to see the class start to move in a direction that the unlimited class has the fastest cars just like the other classes in off-road. I would love to see up to 80" wide UTVs with motor work and no restriction on electronics (ECU). Cars that aren't irrelevant in a year because the chassis can continue to be used and power plants change with the needs of competitive progression. In my opinion that is where the most potential for the turbo and n/a cars is. Our team plans on building another car soon and this is definitely what we would like to do. Sure would save us a whole lot of money in the long term.

Until the dust settles and the year progresses with the Pro Turbo class and Pro Production (N/A) class fighting for supremacy, we will just sit back and hope some other racers feel the same way.

Keep in Mind, At every race there is an "overall UTV Winner" which goes to the fastest finisher of all utv classes.
Since we have been racing, I remember only one race where the overall went to anyone outside the pro production class. It was a Rhino with some motorcycle engine in the unlimited class maybe 5 years ago.
I think now we could possibly see an overall winner from N/A or Pro Turbo or possibly Unlimited. Theoretically the Unlimited class has the rule latitude to be able to build a crazy fast car that could dominate, but no one has figured it out ...... yet!
This new class structure will work okay. I think we will see the Production Turbo class grow at a rate that will match the reduction in the Pro N/A class until it becomes the largest class with the unlimited class remaining stagnant along with the Sportsman class. Just my prediction, but overall I see the total number of entries to continue to grow steadily.
How many cars for parker? My prediction is 65 total UTV's

 

[acme]

"and confiscate engines after the race. Confiscated engines may not be returned."

I do not believe I have ever seen nor heard the term: "confiscate engines" before in any rule book? Very odd and interesting language and if I'm not mistaken the UTV's are the only class where this is mentioned in the BITD rules.

SCORE's rule book under engines in CR 23/24 states: That they may check and may mark engine blocks or cases; which is the only reference as there is no class 19 section in the 2015 rule book and no other class I noticed said anything about "confisacting".

If my history is correct, I think a total of 4 VW engines have been "claimed" in the 25ish year history of the VW claimer classes and all instances had quite a bit of drama. I can only imagine the "confiscation" conversations and ensuing fallout...

 

[Ignore Amos]

Swear i seen it on there...maybe it was on the form showing next years classes

At the beginning of 2015 when we entered Unlimited Pro.. I asked Casey to change it on the forms and refer to it as a Pro class since we pay the same entry as the pro class and there are payouts etc... I thought they change it on the entry forms too..